liv001's Journal, 20 March 2022

Another summary about a recent book I read...

Burn by Herman Pontzer

Tag: New Research Blows the Lid Off How We Really BURN CALORIES, LOSE WEIGHT, and STAY HEALTHY.

Herman Pontzer is an anthropologist and studies energy expenditure and Professor at Duke. He spent time with the Hadza tribe in Tanzania which has maintained a hunter gatherer lifestyle. They are generally very skinny people (very low fat percentage) They have muscles but they are not bulky. They eat traditional food low on fat, high on carbs and moderate on protein. They also have very active lifestyles

The theories around losing weight and exercise (the burning) is the most ground-breaking with the book. He argues based on his own observation and observations by other anthropologists and researchers that all humans are evolutionary engineered to burn calories on a very narrow range and that activity level does not change it. So crudely put a coach potato in the industrial West and a super active hunter gathered will burn roughly the same amount of energy

So exercise is therefor not as relevant to our weightloss journeys but still very important to our health and well being.

The weaker part, maybe, of the book is how to explain how people still gain weight as well as suggest solutions as to how to lose weight once you get to that place. Here Pontzer relies on a few minor studies and some generalizations But it is still a bit interesting. He strongly maintains that while he does not believe in the calories out He strongly believes in calories in.


His main point is that while our bodies will try to metabolic equilibrium (the fire in our bodies. our metabolism) our brain is one of the main problem in weightgain. We “are prewired with neurons waiting to sense “good” things and release reward molecules like dopamine and endocannabinoids in response…Our brains learn to trigger our reward systems at the mere hint of an impending goodie… The human brain has a reward centres that responds strongly to food , particularly fat and sugar “

He argues that our industrialization is part of the reason why we get fat. Our busy lives make us stressed and we use food to medicate choosing things that make us feel good. .

We also eat too much processed food and food designed to make us feel good and therefore also make us overeat.

So we should make conscious efforts to, most of the time, choose food that are less processed with less added fats and sweeteners and with more fiber (Lean protein and whole food). We should eat more boring food that is about sustenance and less variety for just entertainment and pleasure.

Personally I think it makes sense as well.

Diet Calendar Entry for 20 March 2022:
1292 kcal Fat: 94.86g | Prot: 73.94g | Carb: 45.32g.   Dinner: Skinny Pasta Konjac Spaghetti, Nigerian Stew. Snacks/Other: Skippy Creamy Peanut Butter, Utz Pork Rinds, Vital Proteins Beef Gelatin, Blue Diamond Almond Breeze Unsweetened Vanilla Milk, Lindt 95% Cocoa Dark Chocolate, Cheddar Cheese, Werther's Original Sugar Free Chewy Caramels. more...

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Intreresting. Thanks. 
20 Mar 22 by member: Draglist
I found his reasoning around food and pleasure quite relevant to my own struggles. Definitely made me think.  
20 Mar 22 by member: liv001
If his book is based off of that tribe, I suspect everyone's lean & wiry physique is due to the lack of McDonalds, sodas, pizza and general processed crap that everywhere else in the world is consumed. So easy to be thin when you avoid restaurants and sugar, even with the stress of a job or lack of regular aerobic exercise. Thanks for sharing the book, Liv!  
20 Mar 22 by member: JustBananas
Processed food is easy and tasty. I know both me and my husband consume too much of it. 
20 Mar 22 by member: Brigit0
I agree with most of this. I've tried and failed to "burn" 3000+ calories and it doesn't work, or if it works for a day, the compensations that take place the next day negate it. I also think many people are addicted to food (I am too) and calorie-counting/tracking is a band aid but I think it's no way to live one's life. I've yet to see people tracking calories for years who feel genuinely satisfied and who have reached their optimal performance and physique. They tend to be obsessed with food even if it's controlled. The only thing I would quibble with is you can't "believe" in calories out or not. Calories out is not just about intentional exercise about unconscious calorie expenditure including the thermic effect of food. But yeah, the changes to our calorie expenditure over time through exercise are really quite insignificant. 
20 Mar 22 by member: DoubleBootyCatsPyjamas
I walk 3 miles almost everyday and I also lift weights, 100 sit-ups, 60 leg lifts almost everyday. There are times I can't/don't do those things for a few days and I definitely can tell that I need that exercise to at least maintain my weight/health ... I don't weight myself everyday, more like every 3 or 4 days so I can't really know if I gain weight when I don't get exercise. Using a "food journal" daily to count calories worked wonders for me over the last year. According to the Dr. I was 48lbs heavier 1 year ago.  
20 Mar 22 by member: Brianemcfarlane
Interesting observation. I definitely believe in the processed/ non processed part. I eat pretty healthy and unprocessed as much as I can. I notice a difference in many areas. I have more energy and brain sharpness. I don't feel so sluggish anymore. It also has affected my hair and skin! ( in a very good way!) 
20 Mar 22 by member: Diana 1234
Thank you Liv001, that was great! Unfortunately, it looks like McDonald’s is taking over the world. Soon that tribe will be on FS!🙃 
20 Mar 22 by member: Shrewdness
Yep, a 130 pound hunter gatherer and a 250 pound American will burn the se calories. One from activity, the other from maintaining so much mass. 
20 Mar 22 by member: -Diablo
TYFS! Interesting. I did not realize that a couch potato who gathers meals at Walmart and real hunters burn the same amount of calories. That does not make sense at all. 
20 Mar 22 by member: StormsGirl
Stormy, it's physics. A smaller body will burn far fewer calories given the se activity level. Now add a 100 pound vest to that person and make him do the same activity. It requires much more calories to perform the same actions. 
20 Mar 22 by member: -Diablo
Idk why my phone keeps autocorrecting same to se, lol 
20 Mar 22 by member: -Diablo
This concept has been around for quite some time and is very true. I went to a nutrition, diet and obesity conference about 7 years ago and this was covered in one of the lecture sessions. The primary value of exercise is that it does keep your metabolism burning longer but it is the health and esthetic rewards that it brings to the table that are where the real value lies.. you cannot exercise yourself to death thinking you can compensate for over eating. Just doesn’t work that way. 
20 Mar 22 by member: Kenna Morton
Wow!!! This sounds like a great book  
21 Mar 22 by member: buenitabishop
Just put the book on hold at my library. Thanks for sharing this! I've seen other research about the Hadza in terms of the gut microbiome. Fascinating stuff  
21 Mar 22 by member: writingwyo
Kenna and Diablo. Ditto what you guys said. 
21 Mar 22 by member: Diana 1234
Wow thanks for the synopsis- will have to see if my library has this one. I agree that exercise isn’t the direct correlation to weight loss and that industrialization/ process food product is def the leading cause to obesity. I think that exercise is super important in the big picture, but sweating doesn’t necessarily equal fat loss. Will have to check this nonentity, thanks for sharing! 
23 Mar 22 by member: REMCarter
Just today on twitter one low carb person, Anthony Gustin posted a thread outlining his experience with the Hadza and it was funny how different his views was about their diet preference. I do not have any knowledge about the tribe but I know that studying anything is hard and you have to have strict guidelines so that you do not let your own views colour what you "find". But just noting it here and will see if there is any serious discussion emerging about this. I hope the Hadza does not have to host a ton of westernes trying to prove a random diet thesis. They probably have better things to do 
24 Mar 22 by member: liv001
liv001...sooooo...was he claiming that the Hadza were low carbers? 
24 Mar 22 by member: writingwyo
My wife read this last summer and found it very interesting and well-written. I need to read it still. Thx for posting. 
24 Mar 22 by member: sk.17

     
 

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