trackin64's Journal, 21 June 2016

Also what does the expression " insulin response" actually mean? Do we need insulin or make insulin? I really don't understand. It's really over my head, unfortunately. I've read almost every post except the trolls, but a little too scientific for my numbers brain. Great question Trackin, as I only watch recorded tv so I can fast forward through the commercials. The sight of some foods stay with me for days sometimes.  

I hope the impact is negligible. I see a lot of food on FS and we talk about a great deal . . . hate to think FS is making me fat! 

Institute for the psychology of eating.com . might have resources  

Thanks, SW, I'm thinking it's more of a physiological thing - as part of the digestive process it is probably pretty much automatic. Though I suppose if a person is capable at visualizing eating, causing a major physiological response, that would be a psychological process. LOL@FiveTwo - I would imagine it's a small release but I was wondering if it had been studied and measured by any researchers. I bet we also produce a little stomach acid in anticipation of a meal.  

you're welcome. I've watched a couple of webinars on how we view food, or how emotions can change our metabolism.  

I have a theory on this subject, as I have spent months studying it now. I do believe its mental as well as physical. If you see food, and become hungry, you can almost guarantee that your insulin level went up at the thought of the food. One effect of Insulin is to increase hunger levels. I myself have actually felt the effect of this. I rarely get visually triggered by food though. But it has happened. For me it has been much more often an olfactory trigger. smelling certain foods REALLY kicks the hunger in. Which is why I try to stay away from strong smelling food. That's hard sometimes when you drive past a restaurant. I also notice I hardly EVER think about food now. Where as when I first started fasting, I ALWAYS thought about food. That just seems to have vanished. Insulin Response literally means "The way your body responds to external and internal stimuli for the purpose of hunger induction and fat metabolism by increasing or decreasing Insulin production or restriction." You guys need to remember. The human body reacts differently to different food stimuli. When your body has foods such as high fat meats, it knows you are NOT in a time of Famine or lean times. It helps to keep insulin levels down because the body knows you wont be starving any time soon. But when you HAVE to consume vegetation like roots, tubers(Potato and radish like food) Beans, fruit, and various other veggies then your body sees this as knowing the high calorie foods are dwindling and you need to switch into HUNGER ON mode to get enough calories in your body to store fat and increase long term energy storage mode. Which it is NOT supposed to be easy to do. Remember 1 Gram of FAT has 9 calories. And 1 gram of Carbs has 4 calories. You need MORE carbs per calorie than you do fat. MOre than Double actually. That is why the body responds with insulin when you eat carbs. Your body thinks you are going into lean times when you eat a lot of Veg. I.E. You will get more hungry as you eat more carbs. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. 

Hmmm! You might be on to something there, Trackin. For years I have been complaining that I just have to look longingly at the food for me to gain weight! Maybe if I start closing my eyes during food ads the weight will come off faster. 

Yes, @delede and Knuckles, probably a lot depends on what triggers your desire for food. For delede it's visual, and I think I'm more like Knuckles and it's olfactory. I really can ignore food I see but smelling it is more likely to make me want to eat. Given your comment, Knuckles, you might appreciate that one of the American Indian tribes' word for "famine" literally translates as "when we had to eat plants." (That was in one of Gary Taubes' books.) Sounds very disappointing! So yeah that supports your idea that eating plants could signify troubled times to our bodies. Before we domesticated cattle or learned to extract oils from plants, fat was hard to come by unless it came from meat, or perhaps was a rare commodity if you lived a hunter/gatherer existence. I loved the part in the Drs. Eades book where someone studied two groups living in the same area at the same time, one hunter/gatherer and one farming. The diets were analyzed along with health outcomes, and the hunter/gatherers had better teeth, better health and less infant mortality - and their diet was far lower in carbohydrate and grains in particular. Insulin is required to process carbs, but not so much for protein or fat.  

I wish I could remember the name of the Doctor who did the study. But I think I remember the gist of it. He compared an Inuit tribe who consumed 90% FAT 10% protein. Pretty much all whale blubber. Versus a pure carbohydrate diet consumed by very poor countries. He found that not only were the Inuit FAR healthier they were MUCH longer lived. Well into their late 90's. But in the countries where the high carbo diet was consumed the Obesity epidemic and its related illnesses( We all know the list well here) Were COMPLETELY INSANE!!! Just from eating vegetables. It has been shown over the decades that poor people need to subsist off of carbohydrate foods. And they live MUCH shorter lives for it. Yes, vegetables have more micronutrients in them. But then again they have to. Because when you get to the point where you have to eat them, you REALLY need the nutrients in the,. Because you are most likely on the edge of starvation. Back in the ancient times, you ate what you could catch, or what you could dig out of the ground. Or you didn't eat. There was no farming.  

Thank you lovely lady Carmen. You have a wonderful weekend as well my good friend. 

Happy weekend to you Carmen! 

The only way I'll be able to not think of chocolate, cakes, etc. Is to remind myself "I can wait, it'll be there again sometime." :-P  

..... kind-of like what they tell smokers when they're trying to quit.