03 Jun 22 by member: ObeseToBeast123
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Why not remove everything from the last meal and add one scoop of protein powder and a little milk to something like FairLife or other protein milk (150 cals @ 30g protein)? Then you can toss in a donut, cake or something fun to get a daily treat while still hitting your macros? It'll also top off your glycogen and make the next workout and sleep little better! Having simple sugars before bedtime too because your insulin will spike a little to promote MPS! 💪
05 Jun 22 by member: chrisw77
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That is a shake with fairlife at the end. Why would I need a donut or something fun?? That a good way to become insulin resistant then your spikes wouldn't mean shit. Lol
06 Jun 22 by member: All_Pain_No_Gainz
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I bet people who eat like that are the people you see doing jumping Jack's or jump rope between set at the gym.
06 Jun 22 by member: All_Pain_No_Gainz
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Insulin resistance raises with obesity but the exact cause is not yet known. If it was because of what you eat, I'd have diabetes so thank goodness it isn't. :D
06 Jun 22 by member: -Diablo
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Interesting Diablo, my insulin was high even though my blood sugar was normal. My sugar intake hasn’t been bad in 1.5 decades. I was obese. I only added supplements (turmeric, ginger, magnesium, chromium) and my insulin is now fine. Nice to know it’s not eating habits, as I suspected. I got obese by eating too many normal foods due to extreme hunger, which I resolved. Thanks!
06 Jun 22 by member: BlackCatDad64
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Very true on this. I grew up never drinking anything that isn’t sweet. Mostly coke all the way through highschool. Ate lots of cake n pastries too. But I was very active, lifting weights on n off more off than on lol playing sports, and constantly walking throughout the day. My fat content never got high. I suspect insulin resistance happens with your body fat levels. Everyone I know that has diabetes have very high body fat 🤔
06 Jun 22 by member: Supergainz1
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There is a ton of misleading info going on here (aside from him being told to replace the nutritional food with a donut). Spiking your insulin multiple times a day will indeed make the body resistant to insulin. It's a known fact. Maybe not to the point of becoming diabetic, but less sensitive to it for sure.
08 Jun 22 by member: Edgar_Get_Swole
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Post a link with scientific proof there, Edgar. I saw no such proof in my search.
08 Jun 22 by member: -Diablo
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I wonder which old user you are, joins this month and posts about a "known fact" that is actually a well known myth.
08 Jun 22 by member: -Diablo
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https://youtu.be/6qjTwZhnL9Y
That one's on me. You're on your own finding the full version, which I recommend you watch. Don't be afraid to go past page one on Google search.
08 Jun 22 by member: Edgar_Get_Swole
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"Chronically elevated insulin" how is that achieved in a healthy individual with a healthy body fat percentage who isn't chronically overeating? It doesn't happen which is why you never see an active person with a healthy body fat percentage contracting type 2 diabetes. Fat loss and health are still determined by CICO and ensuring you're following a good diet. When you're eating 4k calories of healthy food, a donut isn't going to affect your health, in the least. Most people get less than 2k calories of healthy food.
08 Jun 22 by member: -Diablo
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And I raise your youtube video with an article with over 20 scientific citations. https://weightology.net/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/
08 Jun 22 by member: -Diablo
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Diablo asked for scientific data and you provided a YouTube vid of someone talking their theory. I mean chronically spiking your insulin, I could see how one can become resistant from that. If your glycogen is full and you are not an active person. Your muscle will resist the insulin cuz there’s no room for storage. Then you’ll get longer elevated blood glucose because the process of turning carbs to fat is inefficient in the body.
The real question is tho, does anybody here knows anyone with a healthy body fat and activity that has type 2 diabetes?
08 Jun 22 by member: Supergainz1
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And I’m talking body fat% not BMI. Don’t mistake the two
08 Jun 22 by member: Supergainz1
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I had blood work done at week 15 of this bulk, my fasting blood sugar was 94 . Given That was at 700g carbs a day even with 6 days a week 3hrs a done weight training hard and had my liver enzymes raised sky fricking high. That's almost prediabetic terms on the blood sugar. So that guys not totally wrong. I think you both are forgetting this is in a calorie surplus. Not in a deficit.
08 Jun 22 by member: All_Pain_No_Gainz
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Pain that fasting blood glucose is in the normal range. But you brought up a good point. Deficit and surplus does make a difference. But I would think you’d have to be in a long deficit to accumulate a good amount of body fat for it to affect your insulin sensitivity
08 Jun 22 by member: Supergainz1
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It's high normal. 100 or over is prediabetic. It only took 15 weeks to raise it from the mid 70s to high 90.
08 Jun 22 by member: All_Pain_No_Gainz
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Good info. Are you still on the bulk and have another blood work done? I’d be interested to know
And it does makes sense. Being on a surplus with that amount of carbs your glycogen is always full. So it leaves more glucose in the bloodstream while your liver enzymes work to metabolize the rest into fat for storage
08 Jun 22 by member: Supergainz1
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Six days a week, three hours hard weight training...!!!??? I wonder how does your body manage to recover from that torture!? 700g carbs daily!? An X-Men mutant i guess!
08 Jun 22 by member: Tassos67
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