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I see quite a few blogs and sites complaining, that Keto is somehow an elitist or expensive way of nutrition.
I find this mindboggling. If you even considered the amount of super processed soya injected and chlorine infected junk, that goes into food- processing, that is literal not even food but actually poison for your body, your health and the control of your appetite and metablism ... take all that pure shite out...is that processed junk good value?? For what you get? NO, it is not.
The pure, whole foods unsaturated monsaturated fat, nutrients in fresh produce, and the care of short life healthy uncontaminated pure food... is worth the extra expense.. for your health, for the regulation of your bodies systems organs and processes against disease. These pure foods, not only give you better and longer hunger satiety for less gs.. (because its actually food, not toxin, poison and junk)..so its immediately better value as you need less. BUT - it is also your bodies natural medicine and protection against disease, fatigue, illness and all sorts of maladies.
Many of you complain of ailments that your doctor insists you should lose weight in order to address, but what you actually miss is that your doctor is 100% correct -- most the damage and distress and ailments your body suffers is down to your uneducated lack of pure WHOLE food choices, and unnatural selection of poisons longlife contaminated processed so called "food". If you go out and eat a whole food nutritional diet, and get frequent exercise, you win two fold - You give your body the resources to fight and insulate you against these ailments, You will also lose weight. The two are intertwinedly linked, both will solve your maladies and give you health.
Ok, that's the rant over. Much of this is for self motivation, also, I am not saying I'm perfect either - just trying to invigorate myself to proper nutritional care - peace all :)
Diet Calendar Entries for 07 May 2021:
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1339 kcal
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Fat: 57.31g | Prot: 45.70g | Carb: 51.40g.
Breakfast: Coffee, Devon Cream Company English Double Cream. Dinner: Wegmans Cooked Shrimp, Swad Sarson Ka Saag, Onion Bhaji. Snacks/Other: Portlock Smoked Salmon Pate, Carr's Table Water Crackers, Carbonated Water Unsweetened, Vodka, Sauvignon Blanc Wine. more...
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2640 kcal
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Activities & Exercise:
Calisthenics (light, e.g. home exercise) - 45 minutes, Bathing - 45 minutes, Walking (moderate) - 3/mph - 2 hours, Hanging Laundry - 45 minutes, Housework - 1 hour, Sleeping - 8 hours, Resting - 6 hours and 15 minutes, Desk Work - 3 hours and 30 minutes, Reading - 1 hour. more...
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I think there might be some confused concepts, here. A ketogenic diet is low in carbohydrates and high in fats. It's also fully possible to eat a diet high in carbohydrates that also doesn't include processed foods. The mediterranean diet, for example, is widely lauded as one of the healthiest diets in the world, and places a big emphasis on leafy greens, legumes, and whole grains - all carbohydrate-heavy foods. I think most folks in the world know that processed foods aren't *good* for them, but there is so much conflicting and confusing information out there about how we "should" be eating that folks just starting out probably feel a bit overwhelmed.
07 May 21 by member: she_loves
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With respect, you miss the point!! A LOT of high carboyhrated "food" is such because its processed, bread, pasta, pizza, boxed breaded fish and chicken, ready meals full of soy, rapeseed oils and sugars... all highly processed and at the extreme end in carboyhdrate count. These are the junk foods that many struggling to regulate their weight by not eating whole foods, and natural produce continually confuse their bodies.
On the mediterranean diet, pasta, bread, pizza are all processed, so you are actually wrong on that count - and obviously confused - bread is processed ... the difference is that the proportion of that in the Italian diet compared to the average American diet - nearly 80% of adult Americans are clinically overweight with a BMI over 26 - is very LOW. And the majority of their diet is unprocessed natural food produce.
Please do go and educate yourself more on nutrition, you seem to not understand basic fundamentals!!
07 May 21 by member: Bandrai
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If you ACTUALLY tried to eat a completely unprocessed "food" diet ... you would find it practically IMPOSSIBLE to have a high carbohydrate diet!!!
GO try it! Dare you... you leave out ALL processed "foodstuffs" what can you eat with a REALLY HIGH carb count.... tell me??
Its impossible.
07 May 21 by member: Bandrai
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it is good to say what is on your mind and I agree with you and processed foods
07 May 21 by member: ridemariel
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No food, no “diet” is healthy if you cannot control your portions and how often you eat. Any diet will work for weight loss if you FOLLOW it. Doesn’t matter if it is low or high carb, low or high fat, Keto, Mediterranean. Finding a way of eating that both helps you reach your health goals and still allows that space for the OCCASIONAL decadent food or treat is what contributes to long term weight maintenance. Life is long, if you are lucky. Deprivation and severe food restrictions seldom works long term for most people. This can be done and it doesn’t have to be so hard. I have been mentoring morbidly obese people for about 35-40 years. There is no magic. Portion control, moderation and movement.
07 May 21 by member: Kenna Morton
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ridemariel ... I hope this did not come across as dictatorial .. I am just very passionate. The "food industry" has conned a lot of us, far too long, and it does upset me to see people struggle, especially in pain, with chronic illness, disease, all these aliments, which fundamentally they would mostly not suffer if they had not been sold lies.
Fundamentally, processed food is junk, because it is worthless to our bodies systems as a nutrient.. therefore we should not eat it.
Furthermore, even some people who think they're knowledgeable still don't understand what processed food is... and it is not just the junk food you get at McDonalds or at KFC or Taco Bell and Nandos..... which is all pure crap!. It also includes those manufactured and longlife foods that are not natural such as pizza bread pasta ready meals .. its not just from the fastfood joint.
I won't even go to sugar/candy .. everyone's aware they're of zero health or nutritional value.... and unless you're an oil rigger or mountaineer you don't have the calorific need for those things, except on a very sparingly basis.
Anyway ... I wait to see if she can eat boiled potatoes 24/7 all week in order to get to the sometimes shocking 1000 cal carbs a day I see on some peeps diaries ... as I said, potato probably being the highest carb count natural whole food ... and I think its impossible.
These are just thoughts, they may be challenging ... but they're not meant to offend, just enlighten.
07 May 21 by member: Bandrai
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Quite obviously Kenna "any diet" SIMPLY will not lead to weight loss. Your statement is a complete misnomer.
But I am talking, about way more than just weight.
07 May 21 by member: Bandrai
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I think you may have misunderstood what I meant by whole grains. I didn't mean bread and pastas made from whole grains, I literally meant whole grains. Like rice, bulgur, quinoa, corn, etc. Minimally processed (we do have to harvest and shuck them, after all), but still rich in carbohydrates. My point isn't that a diet low in processed foods is a bad thing - I eat a diet low in processed foods, after all - just that you're saying a "ketogenic" diet and describing a whole food diet, which is completely different. A whole food diet includes carbohydrates - as it should, as carbohydrates are necessary for cell function, and fiber is essential for a healthy gut microbiome. Secondly, it is absolutely possible to lose weight on a diet high in processed foods. As long as your caloric intake is less than your caloric output, you will lose weight. A calorie is a calorie whether it comes from fat or sugar. Where people get in trouble is that high processed foods are calorie dense and nutrient poor, they're poorly satiating, and people often underestimate just how much of it they're eating. Weighing foods and tracking calories is a proven means of weight loss, it will work 100% of the time, even if all of the calories are coming from twinkies. It would just be teally difficult to feel truly full and satisfied on a diet of only twinkies, and after a while there's be some pretty substantial nutrient deficits... But weight loss would still happen.
07 May 21 by member: she_loves
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I don’t think this only applies to keto. This applies to any diet without processed food. Here’s my support though, because chances are keto is better for you than a diet full of processed foods, and I’m happy that you found what works for you.
07 May 21 by member: NewNameNewMe
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I looked up my salad for ya just for kicks. It's lettuce, corn (locally grown) , black beans (cooked myself, not from a can), chickpeas (cooked myself, not from a can), and a dash of nutritional yeast, with a banana on the side. Altogether it was 331 grams of food. 58.4 grams of carbohydrates, 14.57 grams of protein, and 2.24 grams of fat.
07 May 21 by member: she_loves
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Awesome rant to remind me to stay on the healthy side ...with whole foods
07 May 21 by member: RoseBud1342
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Eating healthfully IS a privilege. One I took for granted until I came across an interesting story a while back. Couple upper middle class teenage girls blogged their experience having to move in with their poor relatives due to family circumstances. The biggest difference in daily life they cited was diet. Not 3 to a bedroom or no car or shitty school or neighborhood crime. Difficulty in eating well. Both struggled to stay skinny, aka normal weight. In addition to being engineered to be addictive, as you correctly point out, manufactured food is exceptionally cheap relative to real food on a per calorie basis. So it is the logical choice on a tight food budget. Also, no Whole Foods in the hood...
07 May 21 by member: jimmiepop
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There are people doing there best to give their families the best possible food while eating out of a food bank. When I went to Washington DC a few years ago and road the subways I discovered that people were doing their routine grocery shopping out of CVS stores. I stayed at a hotel on the WASHINGTON MALL and never saw what I know as a grocery store. I was in shock. There are millions of people in this country who actually have very little access to decent food let alone specialty foods. I think about that every time I tell someone to just go to Sprouts, or Whole Foods, or or TJs. Just not happening for so many.
07 May 21 by member: Kenna Morton
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I am native Greek. I was raised with the mediterranean diet. It is based on legumes, raw or baked vegetables and fruits. Countless carbs and fiber, nothing processed. Fats from virgin olive oil and wild fish, sardines, anchovies, nothing processed. Also nuts, pies and dairies. People at villages make pasta from their own milk, eggs and wheat or buy them from small local producers, minimal process. Same goes for breads and pies. Also for dairies and all kind of meat although it is rare in our diet. Anyway, for us it is very easy to live on >50++% carbs and >50grms fiber daily, cheap and non processed. It is also on our will to buy large firm highly processed products such as pitas, pies, pasta, ready to eat meals that are supposed to be healthy but this has nothing to do with the so called Greek Mediterranean diet.
07 May 21 by member: Tassos67
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I have SSI and SSDI. I have a certain budget of spending money I receive every month. I love in a group home and my groceries are covered with room and board. However they don't pick anything diet friendly for me. Now that I am going to be working soon, I will be able to afford to buy my own groceries with my check. It won't be as hard to be able to get groceries.
07 May 21 by member: morganstuart
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Living in a group home has its challenges. You don't always get to pick what you get.
07 May 21 by member: morganstuart
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Thank you all for your contributions.
I feel very passionately, that food security, healthy food options are sooo sooo important to our health, wellness, mind and our mood... the impact of poor, addictive, toxic stuff from the processing industry is so damaging to us!!
Please, get to the farmers markets, and natural produce stores ... and don't buy anything you are to eat in a box ever again!!
Blessings to you all on your journey!
She-Loves ... I see there are some carbs in your salad 50 or so gs compared to an average modern diet is very very low.
10 May 21 by member: Bandrai
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Yeah, the point I was tryin to make is that carbs as a nutrient are vital, and fiber is especially important for gut health (I strongly recommend reading about the link between the gut microbiome and mental health if you haven't already - it's fascinating stuff). Unfortunately fiber in its healthiest form is most common in foods that are composed primarily of carbs, so low carb diets don't always include them at a level that we really ought to be eating them. It's something I'm also very passionate about, and I think there's a lot of misinformation out there. But rest assured that just because I may disagree with you, it does not come from a place of ignorance or lack of education (and I do recognize likewise). =) Passion is important, and we absolutely agree that steering clear of most of the convenience foods available currently is vital to health and happiness.
10 May 21 by member: she_loves
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