08willbegreat's Journal, 07 August 2008

Thanks, guys, for the concerned comments on yesterday's journal--I really appreciate your looking out. Now, here's my response, and some questions for you to help me brainstorm some strategies:

1) Yes, 16 pts yesterday would normally be low, especially since I worked out for over an hour. However, I thought it would balance out for the previous day's high points due to the restaurant meal, and the pound gain. Is that not a fair assessment?

2) Also, I WAS rather full from the meals yesterday, so I don't know what else I could have eaten past 16 points...

3) That said, I am surprised that I didn't lose weight today despite the perfect day of yesterday. So, now, I'm thinking, could this be my body going on the conservation-mode AND likely burning muscle tone instead??

My strategy at this point is to continue eating normally (probably shoot for at least 18-20 pts today), and work out well, and see if I still don't see a loss tomorrow. If not, then I'll have to bump up the intake and have a high-points' day to shake up the metabolism...so, all this brings me to my next question,

4) What should I do about this challenge with BA and MB that entails low-points compared to their low-carbs. And as Evelyn pointed out, lowering the points is more harmful than lowering the carbs. I had thought of keeping the points around 16-18 most days and working out more to allow me to deduct more points, instead of necessarily eating less to further lower points. If that sounds risky, can you think of anything else I might do instead?

Ok, so, that's been my thinking...appreciate your thoughts...thanks!

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I still say it should be an exercise challenge because that way you can have a level playing field. The only other suggestion would be to only do this type of challenge with other WW followers. That being said, the one day of low points will not cause any long term damage, I'm sure. It's just that the propensity to keep pushing for low points while on this challenge might cause the starvation mode you spoke of. That's all I got for ya, kid. Best of luck! 
07 Aug 08 by member: evelyn64
I agree w/evelyn64. Hey, we all have our 'bad days'. I think in the future, working out more the next day rather than restricting diet is a better option. The more muscle mass you have...you can be sitting and still burn more calories than if you had less muscle mass. So I would weight lift the next day. Not really familiar w/ WW. 
07 Aug 08 by member: JulieC
Julie, I respectfully disagree!! Yesterday wasn't a "bad day"--it was PERFECT day!! And I worked hard to keep it that way! Don't be raining on my parade! (:P!) Hah!  
07 Aug 08 by member: 08willbegreat
haha! ok, I'm being difficult (get to do that with "real life" friends!)...but I know what you mean about the weights--in fact I was planning on putting in a complete upper body weight training in today..thanks! 
07 Aug 08 by member: 08willbegreat
Good for you! Just worked out 40 min to a video at home. Just bought a resistance band (so I can do some leg work while watching TV) and a pedometer (Stanford University study said that if you use a pedometer you're likely to walk an extra 2,183 steps). Let's see if throwing some $$ at these items work! Hopefully, I use them! 
07 Aug 08 by member: JulieC
Becareful about going below your points. You can actually cause a weight gain. You can also screw up your metabolism. The more you eat while you lose, the more you can eat while maintaining. You would be better to vary your points (high and low days). The lowest you should ever go is 18. If you work out alot, your body needs fuel. Think of your body like a furnace. If you don't put fuel in it, it will eventually stop burning.  
07 Aug 08 by member: Suzi161
Sorry, I don't know the answers to your questions! I only know what works for me, and that's not going below my points (I did one day by accident). Maybe a different challenge is in order, that's apples and apples.  
07 Aug 08 by member: amryk
16 points is pretty low. When I did weight watchers I figured that 1 point was roughly 50 calories so that would calculate out to only 800 calories for the day! Trying to compare the 2 plans is like comparing apples to oranges. I don't know what the answer is either. We should probably do some sort of other challenge I guess.  
07 Aug 08 by member: mbhpro
I'm glad you didn't think that we were being party-poopers and only have your health and ways to optimise losing as concerns! It's true... lower points too much continually and it does slow metabolism. I don't know if you remember but I actually had to INCREASE my points when I was working out loads, as I was suddenly beginning to stall even eating the daily points target. I generally still eat ABOVE my daily points target (which is meant to be 18!!). Currently I'm targeting 19 per day plus the 35 flex points per week. I know some people don't touch flex points... but I do believe that if you're working out (especially to the level that you are of an hour a day sometimes) that it's likely that you would need more calories to keep that fat burning. As others have said WW and Atkins are totally different plans so not comparable -- but you could certainly compare exercise minutes or even set targets of doing say so many minutes of cardio or low impact, abs workouts and maybe weight/resistance training or something along those lines. Hmm... I don't know if you could compare your weekly points target with say the weekly net carbs of Atkins? With perhaps the target of not going over your WW weekly points target maybe? But remember this may include your flex points -- so you'd have to determine what your weekly points target should. I'm not sure if that would work... but just an idea for something that might be a bit more comparable. Above all though Amee... you keep up the great work, as the results are showing in your piccy's! ;o) 
08 Aug 08 by member: MoonLite

     
 

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