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reddarin

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 12:27
Eating to a calorie goal is not hard to do as long as you spread your calories out during the day. But you have to be conscientious about it.

My calories usually run like this: 600-800 morning coffee, 800-1000 lunch, balance for last meal. But if I let my lunch run too late it becomes a problem getting to goal because a huge meal is a huge meal and it is hard to eat a ton at one time or eat a really big meal and then try to eat the rest of the calories without eating late (which I personally don't like doing).
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Posted: 04 May 2013, 12:47
reddarin wrote:
I've had a long standing interest in very moderate calorie cycling. But it is all voodoo on my part. I haven't read anything that would indicate that alternating calorie deficits actually has a metabolic affect other than anecdotal stuff from JUDDD advocates and success stories (which is powerful testimony no doubt). But I don't agree with the super low DD that that plan entails.


Yeah, no... me either. I'd be starving and miserable, and I think the next day I'd probably gorge myself to take care of that feeling or something Embarassed

I kind of wonder if I'm doing something weird with my calories anyway honestly. I've really only been halted for a few days and there's obviously other stuff at play that could be messing with me, so I shouldn't start freaking out or anything like that... but at the same time, I wonder if I'm still technically slowing myself by eating too little or if I'm eating enough/should cut back a bit because I've been between 1500-1600 pretty much my last 30 pounds.

Reason I'm wondering about the too little aspect though is because when I signed up here and put in my stats and listed myself as the lightly active person or whatever (because on most days I go to the park lately and walk 1-2 miles or so on top of regular activity) it told me my RDI is 1800-some calories. Whoah, that seems high to me Laughing

Of course it doesn't know I have hypo or insulin resistance, so there's that... and logic sort of dictates that I should probably LOWER my calories slightly with my 30 pound lighter self. But I really don't know. I've been successful up until this point with what I've been doing, so I'm sticking with it for now. It just makes me wonder... maybe 1800-1900 will be my maintenance, who knows? Razz

Melanie | 27 | PCOS/Hypothyroid/Adrenal Fatigue
Goal #1 - 150 | Goal #2 - 140-145 | Overall Goal - tone and maintain!
"Be who you are, and say what you feel... because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - attributed to Dr. Seuss
bunniee23

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 12:56
reddarin wrote:
I've had a long standing interest in very moderate calorie cycling. But it is all voodoo on my part. I haven't read anything that would indicate that alternating calorie deficits actually has a metabolic affect other than anecdotal stuff from JUDDD advocates and success stories (which is powerful testimony no doubt). But I don't agree with the super low DD that that plan entails.


The JUDDD board grew out of Dr. James Johnson's book and research. I found the DD's to be difficult when done every other day, but what I liked about the 5:2 plan is that I could eat 1800 calories 5 days out of the week.

I'm one of those who has to limit calories, or I don't lose at all. I believe that age, height, and hormones play a big factor in whether someone has to restrict calories on NK.
mizzcase

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 12:59
reddarin wrote:
I've had a long standing interest in very moderate calorie cycling. But it is all voodoo on my part. I haven't read anything that would indicate that alternating calorie deficits actually has a metabolic affect other than anecdotal stuff from JUDDD advocates and success stories (which is powerful testimony no doubt). But I don't agree with the super low DD that that plan entails.


Trying JUDDD just made me food-obsessed and calorie crazy. Before I knew it, I was afraid to eat over 500 calories a day. Never again. I've always avoided JUDDD threads like the plague.
Clueless101

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 13:01
Casey, You are so pretty, love you picture.
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Posted: 04 May 2013, 13:26
Clueless101 wrote:
Casey, You are so pretty, love you picture.


I second this! Smile I love that I'm not the only one who put up a new personal picture for the new site... everyone who's posted pics is so cute! Very Happy

Also, I don't know why I never said this before... but Lisa, you are officially awesome for having a picture of BMO! I have a stuffed BMO that SO got me for Christmas this past year, and I love it. Although I think my all time favorite Adventure Time character is probably Lady Rainicorn Smile

Melanie | 27 | PCOS/Hypothyroid/Adrenal Fatigue
Goal #1 - 150 | Goal #2 - 140-145 | Overall Goal - tone and maintain!
"Be who you are, and say what you feel... because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - attributed to Dr. Seuss
bunniee23

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 13:40
I love Adventure Time! It's creative and funny, but sometimes has moments that are serious and poignant. The episode about Simon & Marcy was so sad when it became obvious that Ice King had no memory of his past with Marceline.

Casey, I had problems with bingeing when I tried JUDDD last year and found out later I was not the only one. I did okay with 5:2 but there's no way I could do it without eating low carb.
raindroprose...

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 13:47
Awww Simon and Marcy are pretty much my favorite now! Ever since I Remember You, I've just been dying to see more of their story... Ice King's story is just so sad and tragic that he can't help being one of my favorites too Smile I keep wondering if Doctor Princess could somehow be Simon's Betty. They look so similar! I keep hoping she is, and they can find each other again somehow... and maybe he can stop being so crazy and find a part of himself again Smile

SO got me to watch them last year, and we watched them ALL in the time span of about a week that they were visiting with me. It was really great. I'm glad they introduced me to it Smile

Melanie | 27 | PCOS/Hypothyroid/Adrenal Fatigue
Goal #1 - 150 | Goal #2 - 140-145 | Overall Goal - tone and maintain!
"Be who you are, and say what you feel... because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - attributed to Dr. Seuss
bunniee23

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 13:58
I just had a look at the RDI calculator on here. It recommends 1700 calories to lose .5 lbs or 1500 calories to lose 1 lb per week.

Melanie, was the 1800 RDI for weight loss? You are 5 inches taller and 20 years younger, so I bet you could lose just fine at that rate. Smile
raindroprose...

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:10
Weirdly enough, 1800 is my RDI according to them for "moderate weight loss" of a pound a week while lightly active. That seems way off to me though because I've been eating no higher than 1600 this whole time, and that started when I was 30 pounds heavier. So I have no idea Laughing

I'm wondering if my hypo/PCOS/insulin resistance would make it so 1800 would be unrealistic though, because that just seems really high to me... although I could be surprised, because I'd been eating at 1300-1400 a while back and couldn't lose ANYTHING. Then I bumped it up a couple hundred calories, and all of a sudden things started moving. Go figure!

My body is a puzzle Laughing

Melanie | 27 | PCOS/Hypothyroid/Adrenal Fatigue
Goal #1 - 150 | Goal #2 - 140-145 | Overall Goal - tone and maintain!
"Be who you are, and say what you feel... because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - attributed to Dr. Seuss
mizzcase

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:41
Clueless101 wrote:
Casey, You are so pretty, love you picture.


You are TOO kind, thank you. Very Happy
mizzcase

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:44
Where do I find the calculator on this site? So confused! I'm still using FitDay to track anyway.
raindroprose...

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:45
mizzcase wrote:
Where do I find the calculator on this site? So confused! I'm still using FitDay to track anyway.


I was too, so I just Googled it Laughing

Here's the link it gave me though: http://www.fatsecret.com/Default.aspx?pa=cmrdi

Melanie | 27 | PCOS/Hypothyroid/Adrenal Fatigue
Goal #1 - 150 | Goal #2 - 140-145 | Overall Goal - tone and maintain!
"Be who you are, and say what you feel... because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - attributed to Dr. Seuss
cpresson

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:47
Weighed in at 133.5 this morning before the 1/2 marathon. Weighed 132.5 after. Had some knee issues but finished in a time that I am fine with (2:27). Ran that 13.1 NK-style with a BPC egg cream before and only water and salt/electrolyte caps during. Energy level was good the whole time--yay! Very Happy

Chapel
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"Now if you are going to win any battle you have to do one thing. You have to make the mind run the body. Never let the body tell the mind what to do. The body will always give up. It is always tired in the morning, noon, and night. But the body is never tired if the mind is not tired.”
- George S. Patton, U.S. Army General, 1912 Olympian
reddarin

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:55
Melanie, probably down 100 calories is the way to move if you are sure it is a real stall. But I'd keep it the same for a week or two to see if it is just a wrinkle.

The reason I think down a smidge rather than up a smidge in this case is that you bumped them to get your losses started so down a little to keep the caloric deficit relatively the same seems reasonable.

Smile
JBmana

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:56
cpresson wrote:
Weighed in at 133.5 this morning before the 1/2 marathon. Weighed 132.5 after. Had some knee issues but finished in a time that I am fine with (2:27). Ran that 13.1 NK-style with a BPC egg cream before and only water and salt/electrolyte caps during. Energy level was good the whole time--yay! Very Happy


Glad you found your way over hereSmile
I was wonder how your race went. Great job!
reddarin

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 14:57
cpresson wrote:
Weighed in at 133.5 this morning before the 1/2 marathon. Weighed 132.5 after. Had some knee issues but finished in a time that I am fine with (2:27). Ran that 13.1 NK-style with a BPC egg cream before and only water and salt/electrolyte caps during. Energy level was good the whole time--yay! Very Happy


That's awesome! Smile

And 132.5 is a new low???

Your first name is Chapel?
cpresson

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 15:00
reddarin wrote:
cpresson wrote:
Weighed in at 133.5 this morning before the 1/2 marathon. Weighed 132.5 after. Had some knee issues but finished in a time that I am fine with (2:27). Ran that 13.1 NK-style with a BPC egg cream before and only water and salt/electrolyte caps during. Energy level was good the whole time--yay! Very Happy


That's awesome! Smile

And 132.5 is a new low???

Your first name is Chapel?


Yes, 132.5 is a new low for me as an adult. I weighed 120 in high school. Yes, Chapel Smile Perfect for a military chaplain, eh?

Chapel
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"Now if you are going to win any battle you have to do one thing. You have to make the mind run the body. Never let the body tell the mind what to do. The body will always give up. It is always tired in the morning, noon, and night. But the body is never tired if the mind is not tired.”
- George S. Patton, U.S. Army General, 1912 Olympian
raindroprose...

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 15:07
reddarin wrote:
Melanie, probably down 100 calories is the way to move if you are sure it is a real stall. But I'd keep it the same for a week or two to see if it is just a wrinkle.

The reason I think down a smidge rather than up a smidge in this case is that you bumped them to get your losses started so down a little to keep the caloric deficit relatively the same seems reasonable.

Smile


Hmmm... that's true, that was what I was thinking too. Although I was wondering if my deficit might be too GREAT now that I'm actually walking again, so that was why I was worried I was eating too little now.

I pretty much went from walking maybe once a week or once every two weeks for 20-30 minutes or so, to walking almost every day this week (it's been nice Laughing ) between 1.5-3 miles most days... some days 4.5. I just found out the trail I walk is 1.5 miles per lap, not 1 Razz

So I was kind of worrying that all those miles and eating the same amount of calories as when I was sedentary might have messed things up a bit... because it seems like the "wrinkle" came about when I started upping my activity level. Mind you I don't speed walk or jog those miles, but I walk all the same and it's somewhere between a leisurely pace most times and sometimes a bit more brisk.

Melanie | 27 | PCOS/Hypothyroid/Adrenal Fatigue
Goal #1 - 150 | Goal #2 - 140-145 | Overall Goal - tone and maintain!
"Be who you are, and say what you feel... because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - attributed to Dr. Seuss
raindroprose...

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Posted: 04 May 2013, 15:08
cpresson wrote:
Weighed in at 133.5 this morning before the 1/2 marathon. Weighed 132.5 after. Had some knee issues but finished in a time that I am fine with (2:27). Ran that 13.1 NK-style with a BPC egg cream before and only water and salt/electrolyte caps during. Energy level was good the whole time--yay! Very Happy


Awesome, congrats on the marathon and the new low! I love your name too, it's nice to finally be able to put a name with the face (and screenname) Smile

Melanie | 27 | PCOS/Hypothyroid/Adrenal Fatigue
Goal #1 - 150 | Goal #2 - 140-145 | Overall Goal - tone and maintain!
"Be who you are, and say what you feel... because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - attributed to Dr. Seuss