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polly56

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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 12:22
Just to say, thank you Spacey47 for your inspiration.
Personally I try to stay out of conflict-life can be hard enough. You and your family don't deserve the bashing you've received- thanks again Smile
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polly56

Joined: Apr 13
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 12:26
Really think threads like this are counter productive, am not sure there are rules exactly but one assumes the spirit of FS is one of support, I truly believe we are entitled to our different approaches but health and well being is a holistic thing and deeper than just focusing on particular food groups. I don't plan to comment on threads any more, as it doesn't seem as though I understand what they're for- i'll stick to the benefits of FS and leave the rest behind Smile
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mmoodd69

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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 12:48
polly56 wrote:
am not sure there are rules exactly


You agreed to them when you joined.

http://www.fatsecret.com/Default.aspx?pa=tnc

mrspackrat

Joined: Aug 10
Posts: 549

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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 13:31
[quote=Spacey47That is a slanderous lie and you will be reported to the site hopefully to be banned

If I had written such language I'm sure I would have been banned

A number of your own posts were also deleted and this is the first time I have responded to any posts since because it is sickening and false[/quote]

You insult so many people you forget all your insults. I suppose you forgot you wished I would die too.

None of my posts were deleted, only yours and you were threatened with being banned not me. I know this thread will be deleted but I'm glad I got to say my peace after the horrible things you said about me.
this damn tracker below hasn't been right in months! My current weight is 137!
Spacey47

Joined: Apr 12
Posts: 916

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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 14:06
polly56 wrote:
Just to say, thank you Spacey47 for your inspiration.
Personally I try to stay out of conflict-life can be hard enough. You and your family don't deserve the bashing you've received- thanks again Smile


Thanks I appreciate that

Don't forget if the fascists get their way

Keep the RATIONAL AND SCIENTIFIC THREAD ALIVE!

wanib

Joined: May 12
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 16:00
Any tips on how to lose weight..........is that not the reason we joined?
Spacey47

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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 16:07
See thread named above for all you Need to get you on your way
Spacey47

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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 17:10
mmoodd69 wrote:
I smell collusion.


I smell paranoia and self doubt
Spacey47

Joined: Apr 12
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 17:12
Quick delete but NOT quick enough!

LOL
almostretire...

Joined: Jul 13
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 18:50
My two cents on the subject...we all come in different shapes and sizes, different metabolic rates, different health issues/non-issues and exercise capability. There is no one size fits all diet. If a diet works for you and you can provide encouragement and helpful hints great. Others may not be able to tolerate that diet but our successful in others. I don't know anyone who can state with any fact that this is the only diet that works and there is something wrong with you if you don't follow "the diet. If I had a serious health issue I wouldn't take a sole doctor's advice - I would get a second opionion on what seems right and works for me. Same goes for getting down to a healthy weight and following a diet that works for me.

Start Weight: 157.6 (7/7)
Today's Weight: 151
Mini Goal #1: 146
mummydee

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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 18:59
Well, Polly56, seems you are wrong, I reported his abuse to my post to FS and it seems that he's been reported so often that he has now been banned.. you say he didn't deserve it? He's been abusive, arrogant, name called, sexist, and a very immature poster. he may have some knowledge and good information to share, but the way he shared it in most threads was very negative and offensive, Apparently FS agrees, so he's gone, for now.
ClassicRocke...

Joined: Jan 13
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 21:37
I reported him several weeks ago. Surprised others didn't when he called them stupid, fools and such. We come here to learn and for support, not to be intimidated and made fun of because we're having problems losing weight. Then to be told it's because we're not doing what worked for him. Sadly, he didn't take into account that many of us and I'm primarily referring to myself, had a lot of weight to lose. He had perhaps 30lbs. I've lost 60 and have 30plus more to lose. His principle doesn't work for me. My niece, who is a trainer admits what works for her, same principle as his, is fine for someone who doesn't need to lose weight. And the calories in/out is not true. A persons physical dynamics need to be taken into account.

I do truly feel sorry for the guy. He is very delusional in so many ways.

Polly... it is my hope that you can reap the rewards of reading positive and inspirational stories we all share. Slander and anger are not a part of a diet forum.



Goal: 160 by 5/1/2014--Okay... I didn't make it. Such is life.
155 or less by 9/1/2014

May I be free to be the me that I came into this world to be.
never...

Joined: Jul 13
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 23:17
didn't that kingkeld chap lose 75kgs by calorie counting using the same principles of calories in vs calories out?

literally halving his body weight?
riocaz

Joined: Jun 12
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Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 04:16
Not just KK... Though I've not quite halved my weight... But I have gone from 6-7xl to xl in less than a year.

Do I believe that all diets work by causing a calorie deficit... Yea. Does the dodgy pseudo-science irritate me on occasions? Yes... But whatever works for you works for you! We are all here for the same reason. We want to make a change. What works for me, may not work for you. And that's okay.

42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2013) 36"(25/05/2013)
Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

Onwards and Downwards! Smile
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kingkeld

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Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 04:18
"That kingkeld chap" did indeed lost 80 kilos - 170 lbs - by counting calories this way.

If you were told that "counting calories" as a diet is only for people who just need to lose a little, and not for the obese (or super obese, for that matter), then they don't know what they're talking about.

I have had several weight loss coaching/supervision jobs that tell a VERY different story, including my own. If anything, I'd say that the really large people SHOULD go this route. You don't end up twice your normal weight from retaining water or just eating salads. It's that simple, whether we like to hear it or not. I surely didn't like to hear it when I had to realize how the facts were. I found it RUDE and it really hurt me.

After a little while I realized the truth behind it, though, and this made me ready to take action. I learned from some guy whose blog I read, and I found it very offensive at the time. He made me frickin' mad!

However, something struck a chord in my little noggin, and it made me able to take action. I wish I knew who this guy was, because I feel that he saved my life. Literally.

Create a deficit of 500-1000 calories on a (more or less) daily basis. Do this my eating less and moving more. If you're done eating for the day, and you have spare calories - then don't eat just to eat. On the other hand, if you have spare calories and you want a snack - go have it.

I just wrote about this in another thread, so I'll take the liberty of copying here, as I see it relevant:

I see that eating less and moving more works. In everyone. No exceptions.

The article is right about the metabolism being different in a 17 year old boy and a 70 year old woman, for example. Surely they also get a different RDI if they were to lose weight. The reason they have a different RDI is because they burn different amounts of calories.

I currently teach 15 people to lose weight. They all lose weight. Fast. Efficiently. Guess how they do it? They count their calories, eat less, move more.

I have a client with chron's disease, I have diabetics, I have menopausing ladies. I have young men. They all lose weight at pretty much the same pace. Even the one lady who can't get around to count her calories still have more focus on her food simply because she is going to the meetings, and she is still losing weight.

If anything, I will say that you can probably optimize your weight loss, if you choose to look at all the fine prints on your food intake. I see that in the clients I have who like to "nerd out" on weight loss. However, they only lose weight marginally faster than the rest.

To me, it's important to have a fun, relaxed and efficient weight loss journey. If you lose weight by simply eating less and moving more, then why go nuts on things that will ultimately just confuse and make things harder?

Just sayin'...

Also, for the record, as I lost my 170 lbs, I did the math. I dropped about 1 lb for every 3500 calories I "saved". Give or take a few hundred. Mind blown.


...so, as stated, I see absolutely no reason to not just do this, make it simple, make it work without too much hassle and confusion.


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"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
kingkeld

Joined: Sep 09
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Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 04:19
Riocaz, I didn't realize that you lost THAT much. Very well done, my friend. I salute you.

Isn't it interesting, though, that so many who have reached goal and who are still active here tend to sign the same song? Very Happy Eat less, move more. Very Happy

Visit my website: www.tabdig.info

"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
jonnybadback

Joined: Aug 12
Posts: 321

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Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 05:01
@spacey47 ... Have you been upsetting people with your 'frank approach' again? Now if you don't start playing nicely then I will have to start reading the forum posts again lol. Oh and stop using my picture on your profile lol.

In defence of the primary suspect for this thread... He does offer a lot of advice and will challenge posts made which he disagrees with. Yes he can be harsh with his comments but he gets them back too. He will tell you we have had our run ins but we certainly don't hold a grudge as our goals are the same...lose weight and keep it off. Some might call him obsessive and arrogant as he has reached his goal, but sometimes you have to be to stay at your happy weight. Some say that as he has reached his goal then he should leave the site, but why? Does an alcoholic stop going to AA meetings just because they have been off the pop for a few months? No they carry on to offer support and advice and to encourage.
In my books spacey47 is in the fat police, he's there when you want help and advice, but he's also there to stop the crank misinformation and he will take prisoners lol

Peace and tranquility to everyone, enjoy your journey, reap your rewards and keep off the pies Smile
riocaz

Joined: Jun 12
Posts: 656

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Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 06:11
Oh I'm notat goal yet. I realised that a few weeks ago. But I've got to the point where I'm tired. So I'm continuing with my plan to get down to 210, and then maintain for 6 months or so before making any further decisions about what my goal is.

42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2013) 36"(25/05/2013)
Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

Onwards and Downwards! Smile
http://www.menu52.com/
riocaz

Joined: Jun 12
Posts: 656

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Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 06:12
jonnybadback wrote:
@spacey47 ... Have you been upsetting people with your 'frank approach' again? Now if you don't start playing nicely then I will have to start reading the forum posts again lol. Oh and stop using my picture on your profile lol.


JBB, he's been banned

42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2013) 36"(25/05/2013)
Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

Onwards and Downwards! Smile
http://www.menu52.com/
kingkeld

Joined: Sep 09
Posts: 1,995

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Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 06:38
Riocaz, it CAN be tiresome doing this, I agree. If you take a few months off, please be VERY careful to not just let go. Maintenance is a fine balance. It doesn't have to be all that hard, but it's a different beast. I would suggest that you instead of a "focused" weight loss journey forget about the weight, but maybe keep the fitbit running (I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you have a fitbit unit) along with maybe creating a daily deficit of 100-200 calories, instead of going "serious weight loss"-mode. The moment you hit pause, you risk not picking up where you left again. Don't let that happen. Smile

Visit my website: www.tabdig.info

"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.



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